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ref.: Farewell to the Lulu Forums
Just to add I agree Ron, the forum was great to discuss "lulu' problems. Which can't be done on other sites.
TheJesusNinja
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ref.: Farewell to the Lulu Forums
This whole thing sounds just like whenever any other company "improves" things for the customer by doing something that no customer has ever wanted or asked for.
Ron Miller
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ref.: Farewell to the Lulu Forums
This seems like a completely pointless exercise. Especially if Lulu's supposed goal is to "to improve the platform and the overall publishing and buying experiences for our customers." Saying that Lulu authors have "numerous other places...where writers can congregate online" is disingenuous. Lulu author/publishers are a community and the forums allowed Lulu authors to discuss Lulu books, Lulu problems and Lulu solutions among themselves. Yes, there are numerous other online forums, but they involve authors working with any number of other publishing resources. I think that rather than "improving" the Lulu publishing experience this decision has instead diluted it.
Ron Miller
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ref.: self published very interesting book
Larika said:Ron's cover sold me "The Painted Bird." I am very interested in how people are treated when they are different and it was clear from Ron's cover that the painted bird was different and was killed because of its difference. I think we all agree it's not the only factor in sales but initially the cover can often catch the eye and sell a book
You are absolutely right. The cover is an important marketing tool but it is not the only one.
I just finished a cover for a traditional publisher (a large house that specializes in science fiction) and a good deal of time was spent in making sure that the cover conveyed exactly the right impression about the book, so that it both attracted and informed the potential reader.
Ron Miller
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ref.: self published very interesting book
Yes Kevun. I tried to find out if Patrick Quinlan joined Elena after her initial self published book and then they rewrote the book. However I couldn't find out the details. I suspect that is what happened. I think his imput was very important and went a long way towards making the book a best seller. Mind you she had quite a story to tell. Yes I agree that there is more to marketing than just the cover, but the cover is an extremely important part of the whole marketing process. The first thing one looks at when glancing at books is the cover art. It is so very important.
Larika
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ref.: self published very interesting book
It's called 'Girl Taken.' The subtitle is - 'A True Story of Abduction, Captivity and Survival.' There's little else to say, and there's a picture, perhaps not of the girl, but as her now. (Perhaps a photo of her as a girl may have been better?)
If one wants to know more there's the blub on the back cover. If one wants to know even more there's the Preview. If one wants greater depth she can be searched for on line, even go to one of her seminars, or watch her on TV, etc.
https://www.girltaken.com/
One fact that seems to get very small second billing is that it was co-written by an established writer, etc. https://www.amazon.com/Patrick-Quinlan/e/B001H6UBGO?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_3&qid=1575744428&sr=1-3
As is keep being discussed, there's far more to marketing a book nowadays than just the cover art.
If one wants to know more there's the blub on the back cover. If one wants to know even more there's the Preview. If one wants greater depth she can be searched for on line, even go to one of her seminars, or watch her on TV, etc.
https://www.girltaken.com/
One fact that seems to get very small second billing is that it was co-written by an established writer, etc. https://www.amazon.com/Patrick-Quinlan/e/B001H6UBGO?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_3&qid=1575744428&sr=1-3
As is keep being discussed, there's far more to marketing a book nowadays than just the cover art.
Just Kevin
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ref.: Having Difficulty Logging In to the Forum?
What a nightmare. I finally got in. Thank you, Oncewas. It should not be this difficult to get into the forums. I read that thread, Paul. Nothing worked. Chrome, Firefox, remove private browsing, clear cache, write to Lulu Chat. I promise you, no one will try this hard, this many times for weeks. Opera worked and still it was tricky.
Maggie
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ref.: I hope ...
Yes, I agree. I did in fact mention that before (on here, but on FB messager). The only issue is, it may lose people if they cannot ask or leave comments when needing help, and they'll go elsewhere.
I know I was very frustrated as I have had questions but couldn't post due to not being able to sign into the forums. I'm amazed I have been able to actually stay signed in (my comps been on 24/7) and the tab left open, just in case I loose this connection.
It may be be 'top priority' but it certainly shouldn't be kicked to the side and pushed back. These forums are a great help, but if the help dwindles down to a trickle because people can't log on, they'll turn the ship around.
Hope they fix it soon.
I know I was very frustrated as I have had questions but couldn't post due to not being able to sign into the forums. I'm amazed I have been able to actually stay signed in (my comps been on 24/7) and the tab left open, just in case I loose this connection.
It may be be 'top priority' but it certainly shouldn't be kicked to the side and pushed back. These forums are a great help, but if the help dwindles down to a trickle because people can't log on, they'll turn the ship around.
Hope they fix it soon.
BksOfBrown
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ref.: I hope ...
I covered the issue in this post on page 1 - https://connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/comment/362174/#Comment_362174
It's due to the way lulu.com handles logging into the site. The service that runs these forums uses https security settings, while the lulu site has some pages that are still http. Because of that, when you log in on lulu and are redirected here, the forums/kb pages see you as coming from a site with unsecure pages and the browser blocks the attempt.
Unfortunately, with the huge workload our developers have in front of them, fixing this issue has not been a priority. Plus, with the major updates to our site incoming, any security issues will be resolved anyway, so again, this specific issue continues to be pushed back.
It's due to the way lulu.com handles logging into the site. The service that runs these forums uses https security settings, while the lulu site has some pages that are still http. Because of that, when you log in on lulu and are redirected here, the forums/kb pages see you as coming from a site with unsecure pages and the browser blocks the attempt.
Unfortunately, with the huge workload our developers have in front of them, fixing this issue has not been a priority. Plus, with the major updates to our site incoming, any security issues will be resolved anyway, so again, this specific issue continues to be pushed back.
Paul_Lulu
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ref.: I hope ...
I had to switch to Opera to log in. And then only after the browser warned me against it and asked if I really, really wanted to.
Arachis_2013
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