Tourist guide books with maps

Hi there-

I have no idea if anyone on here can help me. I've created a guide book for a certain city. My next step is to create maps for each section of the city with the points of interest. I want to insert these at the beginning of each section and then sell the book most likely in print-on-demand method. Due to many travelers being dissatisfied with maps that don't download well onto e-readers, ebook isn't really an option. So, here's my problem/dilemma/question... how do you create a map that can then be inserted into a book? I will most likely use Yandex map site for the mapping as it seems straight forward. However, the map builder is for inserting into websites, not programs. Is it possible to save it and add the map page to a MS Word/Open Office document? I have no idea how companies or other individuals do this.

 

Also, I've been told by someone who seemed to know what he was talking about, that permission is required from map companies on the internet (such as googlemaps, yandex, yahoo, etc.).  Can anyone confirm this?

Anyone with any input from personal experience? Thanks.

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  • You are right; good guides are printed.
    If you can't directly use these Internet maps, screen captures with Snagit or any other similar programs will make it possible for you to have map pictures in the JEPG format, and these can be embedded in any text created with a word processor.
    For "Paul & Berthe / Correspondance 1914-1918", I replaced the road maps of the original project by sketch maps I created, that better show the towns and villages where my grand-father fought during WWI.

  • travelinhobo wrote:

    Hi there-

    I have no idea if anyone on here can help me. I've created a guide book for a certain city. My next step is to create maps for each section of the city with the points of interest. I want to insert these at the beginning of each section and then sell the book most likely in print-on-demand method. Due to many travelers being dissatisfied with maps that don't download well onto e-readers, ebook isn't really an option. So, here's my problem/dilemma/question... how do you create a map that can then be inserted into a book? I will most likely use Yandex map site for the mapping as it seems straight forward. However, the map builder is for inserting into websites, not programs. Is it possible to save it and add the map page to a MS Word/Open Office document? I have no idea how companies or other individuals do this.

     

    Also, I've been told by someone who seemed to know what he was talking about, that permission is required from map companies on the internet (such as googlemaps, yandex, yahoo, etc.).  Can anyone confirm this?

    Anyone with any input from personal experience? Thanks.


    Yes, most of the online maps require permission before you can use them. For instance, all Google maps appear with a copyright notice on them and Yahoo restricts the uses to which its maps can be put in its terms of service. These restrictions include commercial use. I couldn't find anything explicit regarding Yandex, but I would certainly check with them first before you reproduce any of their maps.

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  • Okay, so what's the solution?  Or I should say, easier solution?  I would imagine getting permission from one of these companies comes with headaches and signatures.  Redrawing a simple map is easy enough, but we're not talking about a small town with a few streets.  Any ideas?  Perhaps this is why guide writers/researchers turn to the big travel publishers.

  • Calque the maps, without their toponyms, and add your own.

  • travelinhobo wrote:

    Okay, so what's the solution?  Or I should say, easier solution?  I would imagine getting permission from one of these companies comes with headaches and signatures.  Redrawing a simple map is easy enough, but we're not talking about a small town with a few streets.  Any ideas?  Perhaps this is why guide writers/researchers turn to the big travel publishers.


    It's a major reason why.

     

    For instance, for my most recent commercial book, I needed dozens of images from copyrighted sources in addition to the historic, public domain material I was using. Every single one of the former required obtaining formal permission (and, in a few cases, the payment of fees). All of this research and paperwork was done by a person at the publisher whose specific job was to do that very thing.

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  • potetjp wrote:
    Calque the maps, without their toponyms, and add your own.

    Physically tracing the maps by hand would be OK, but don't just turn off the place names and copy the base map.

     

    You might also do a Google search for the maps you want, using the "Labled for reuse" filter. This will restrict the findings to maps that are copyright-free (though I would still double-check the results).

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  • Very often when you see maps used in things like news reports on line or on TV, in one corner it will say Google Earth or Google Maps or whatever. I am not at all sure if Google worry about such use because it's also an advert for them and their services, and Google make their money from adverts placed on all of their content.

     

    Although I am not sure there's a reason for such specific standalone guides now. Smartphones and tablets have them built in along with satnav, complete with links and search to just about everything in any place.

     

    http://www.visitmanchester.com/

     

     

  • Sorry, but if this is English, I have no idea what you're saying.
  • Okay, I'll see what comes up with that choice.
  • Indeed it is English, from the land that invented it.   Smiley Happy

     

    My link was just an example of what people can access on their phones and tablets when out and about.

     

    Here's another example >>   https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps&hl=en


  • kevinlomas wrote:

    Very often when you see maps used in things like news reports on line or on TV, in one corner it will say Google Earth or Google Maps or whatever. I am not at all sure if Google worry about such use because it's also an advert for them and their services, and Google make their money from adverts placed on all of their content.

     


    No...permission was always obtained by legitimate users. The copyright notice is there for a reason.

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  • I possibly oversimplified it. In some instances Google ask you to tell them, in others they don't seem to care. But they do have some rules and some things need a free licence.

     

    http://www.google.com/permissions/using-product-graphics.html

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    http://www.google.com/permissions/geoguidelines.html

  • Kevin-

    Thanks for that link. It took me straight to the info I needed and it says that you can't use googlemaps if it's going to be the prime navigational info for a guidebook.  So I'll check into the other sites (didn't want to use the new version of googlemaps anyway).

     

  • It would be classed as plagiarism I suppose, but as I read it you can use what you like as long as they are given credit for it and in some instances ask for a free licence.

     

    TV uses just GoogleEarth and Maps at any one time.

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