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TheresaMMoore
Posts: 461
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I have been reading over this thread and here is what I discern:

Lulu chose to cut overseas live staff, which they have to pay salaries to, in order to stay in business and continue to provide its services. Otherwise, there would be no service at all.

Lulu decided that email is the best way to do business. It's impatience which is at the root of the problem. If they are limited in staff those people have to eat and sleep, too; which means that priorities are assigned to the messages. If there is no response, it behooves you to repeat the message. Don't just sit there gnashing your teeth.

Many of the people having problems do not study or even look at the Help FAQs, which are there to help you every step of the way. I have been working with Lulu since 2006, and not once have I had a file problem or a hang-up in publishing because I studied the FAQs first. I have had problems with people on the forums, who have been removed or dealt with since, but that's another matter.

When I used Live Help most of the people did know how to speak a modicum of English, but were not familiar with how the Lulu publishing engine works or its policies. If there is money involved, Lulu's address is posted on the site so you can send them a letter by mail. It helps to be clear and provide a description of the problem so that they can look at what you are talking about. Don't just assume everything, because it's likely that there are at least one hundred people ahead of you in line.

Honestly, I have watched for two years as many people continue to complain when all it takes is a little common sense. The rational approach is to look at what you are supplied with first. Then if something goes wrong it is mostly a software glitch, and telling them once about it is sufficient. Don't wait for a response. Move on and do something else for a while, then come back to it. Sometimes waiting 24 hours for the problem to clear away by itself, or starting over, is the only way you can deal with it.

Many people just starting out don't understand what it takes to publish a book, or that Lulu will do it all for you with magic. It takes self-education and application of what is learned. I have a book which tells you all about it, but you're just going to have look for it yourself. And for Ghu's sake, look at the FAQs. They are there for a reason.
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dawsonvosburg
Posts: 17
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

"TM Moore" wrote:

I have been reading over this thread and here is what I discern:

Lulu chose to cut overseas live staff, which they have to pay salaries to, in order to stay in business and continue to provide its services. Otherwise, there would be no service at all.

Lulu decided that email is the best way to do business. It's impatience which is at the root of the problem. If they are limited in staff those people have to eat and sleep, too; which means that priorities are assigned to the messages. If there is no response, it behooves you to repeat the message. Don't just sit there gnashing your teeth.

Many of the people having problems do not study or even look at the Help FAQs, which are there to help you every step of the way. I have been working with Lulu since 2006, and not once have I had a file problem or a hang-up in publishing because I studied the FAQs first. I have had problems with people on the forums, who have been removed or dealt with since, but that's another matter.

When I used Live Help most of the people did know how to speak a modicum of English, but were not familiar with how the Lulu publishing engine works or its policies. If there is money involved, Lulu's address is posted on the site so you can send them a letter by mail. It helps to be clear and provide a description of the problem so that they can look at what you are talking about. Don't just assume everything, because it's likely that there are at least one hundred people ahead of you in line.

Honestly, I have watched for two years as many people continue to complain when all it takes is a little common sense. The rational approach is to look at what you are supplied with first. Then if something goes wrong it is mostly a software glitch, and telling them once about it is sufficient. Don't wait for a response. Move on and do something else for a while, then come back to it. Sometimes waiting 24 hours for the problem to clear away by itself, or starting over, is the only way you can deal with it.

Many people just starting out don't understand what it takes to publish a book, or that Lulu will do it all for you with magic. It takes self-education and application of what is learned. I have a book which tells you all about it, but you're just going to have look for it yourself. And for Ghu's sake, look at the FAQs. They are there for a reason.


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Thank you for wording my thoughts better, TM. The FAQ are actually helpful when you READ and don't SKIM.

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cnursery
Posts: 6
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I do have a degree of sympathy with TM Moore's views. Some people probably don't bother to look at the FAQs or the Forum pages. As with most things these days, they expect instant answers to problems.

However, some software is, and some websites are, easier to use and navigate around than others. This is usually because some thought has gone into the design - what people want, what they are likely to be technically capable of - that sort of thing. Again, a site such as Lulu must, by its nature, be somewhat complicated, to cater for all the differing needs of its customers. Although new to publishing I am reasonably computer "literate", but I still found the Lulu site extremely confusing; and when I started into the publishing process itself I found the same ambiguity and confusion. The whole thing should have been a relatively easy "step by step" process - although, as with all software, it did become easier with familiarity and use.

I too contacted Lulu on several occassions about problems that could often - although not always - be found on the FAQ pages or in the Forums. When I hadn't found an answer to a particular problem I did what they suggested - contacted them. Most times, the response was favourable, whether by Livechat or email. Usually it was friendly, helpful advice from people doing their job. But I got the feeling (as evidenced in the various forums) that a great many people were having problems with Lulu, in one way or another.

Overall, my experience with Lulu has not been good. All I really wanted was someone to publish some hardback books - books likely to be of interest to a limited audience, but nevertheless available on demand when a customer ordered a single copy.

What did I get? There were problems throughout the whole publishing process, most often because instructions were not clear or were ambiguous. Then the problem of the wrong title printed on the spine of the book - and what I think is unforgivable, Lulu telling my customers that this was MY fault as they had no control over the publishing process!!!!. To top everything, extortionate shipping charges to the UK and elsewhere.
Now Lulu informs me that the problem with the spine title is due to a glitch in their publishing / printing software (or similar). The chances are that they cannot fix it. Their solution is that I need to start each of my projects afresh. This, of course, means producing a new ediition for each title - assigning new ISBN numbers (at a cost to me) plus providing additional copies to each of the Legal Libraries in the UK (at another cost to me). And this for books which I am likely to sell relatively few copies.

The current situation is that II have now stopped the sale of the hardback versions of my books on the Lulu site. I really don't want irate emails from customers telling me the spine title printing is wrong. Lulu either cannot - or does not want to - solve a problem that is by their admission of their own making. I have waited about a month for the problem to be resolved, but nothing has happened so far. What is worse, replies to emails take about a week. This is no way to do business. Meanwhile, my own sales literature has gone out, articles describing or promoting my books have been published in magazines, people are being directed to my website and to Lulu; they want copies of my books and can't get them!

I am afraid what little confidence I may have once had in Lulu has evaporated. Even if the current problems are resolved, is Lulu likely to perform any better in the future? I think not. Whereas once I was telling everybody about Lulu and what a great thing it was, now I find myself saying "don't go there".

Most likely I will indeed have to assign new ISBN numbers and pay out for more legal copies on new editions of my books......

.........but they will not be published by Lulu.
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writteninstone
Posts: 1
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I have had a problem with an order back in december...received some help on it initially but I was supposed to let LuLu know if the reprint was correct. IT WAS NOT...Numerous emails have brought absolutely no response. I would love to have my recipe book printed correctly. I purchased four books. Please help me...without live support I cant contact anyone at LuLu for resolution of this matter. If you are doing away with live support you should at least provide a phone number for contact. THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!
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fidgetyfeet
Posts: 1
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

Well it's now May 2009, how's that email support workin'? :cry: :cry: :cry:

An auto-generated response with yet another ticket number is not customer support!

Michael
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missmae
Posts: 1
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I agree. I'm an author and am only receiving automated replies. My one copy arrived with about 25 pages loosened from the binding. I sent in photos as requested. Now, nothing.

They've assigned a new ticket number to my complaint...hmm...
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cececuts
Posts: 1
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

This is totally frustrating.
My order was printed with the wrong cover in May. It's been three weeks and all I get from Lulu is auto response emails, telling me they will get back to me.. . some day?

I need to order more books but am afraid to until I find out how to order a book that has the correct cover on it. I just want someone to give me an answer.

I want to know if Lulu will give me some answer as to why I have an entire order of books with the incorrect cover.

I want my money back for the incorrect order.

I need to be assured that if I reorder, Lulu will print my order correctly.

Please help me. I want a real answe, not an auto response.

Cece Cutsforth
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champenby
Posts: 33
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

Right now Lulu is overwhelmed with the Amazon problem, so don't expect any help response from them soon.

Theresa, I can't let your remarks pass. May I say, you have been incredibly stupendously lucky never to have needed to call on Lulu's Help.

Besides my own problem (see Support Escalation) which I finally managed to figure out a way around - and I think I know how to fix that problem, but I won't know until I place another order on that credit card through my Lulu account, whenever that may be - you've gotta admit, Lulu's software is dodgy. At this very moment there's a problem with the Community page, sometimes the left column overlaps onto the right column. As for ISBNs, once you enter yours, don't forget to go BACK in the publishing process to the cover and regenerate; otherwise, you won't have an ISBN on your back cover. Also if you switch from General Access to Direct Access, again, your ISBN disappears, both from the cover and the info, you have to type it in again etc.

There have been so many bugs in the system over the years....those are just the ones going on right now that I can name off the top of my head.

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SE Champenby
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epcroll
Posts: 8
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I too miss live help. It was great. Then the e-mail reply in 2 days was acceptable because Chris and others really did get back to me. Now I am facing a brick wall - the new form, after filling out the required items - tells me that there is trouble in the system and they will get back to me in a minute. Well that minute has not come 36 hours later. What gives? I am looking at other self publishing sites for my next project. Anyone out there have success with other self-publishing sites? Please let me know.
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youvegottobekidding
Posts: 1
Registered: 02-11-2010

Re: Customer Service Announcement

I won't order anything from this company unless I can verity they are reputable. Based on the fact that the links to email address are broken and there is no phone number, no address to mail a letter, nothing...I have no faith that my order will go through. Terrible lulu experience.
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