08-04-2011 12:21 PM
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08-04-2011 02:53 PM
Ken I can't agree with you more that in the end e-books are going to be the way of the future. Yes I do believe convenience is going to be the motivating factor. Just look how Borders is closing it's door. I'm pushing 60 and 6 years ago I decided to go back to school and get my Masters Degree in Adult Education with a Concentration in Distant Learning. I didn't know how I was ever going to juggle working, family and going to school. Well I entered the world of Distance Learning and entered the University Of Phoenix. 18 months later I had my Masters Degree and couldn't believe how much I enjoyed the distance learning environment. What I am saying is not only are books becoming digital because of convenience and the bottom line, profits but the entire learning industry is moving away from the brick and mortar institutions, even the University libraries are digital. The year I graduated from UOP they had over 500,000 students learning on-line. The times they are changing.
Ted Fichialos
08-04-2011 03:02 PM
08-04-2011 07:32 PM - edited 08-04-2011 07:34 PM
What I wonder is if the sale of E-books is extra to the sale of paper books? That is, the sale of paper books has fallen slightly and the sales of E-books has risen, because people who normally never buy books are now doing so?
But it's still new tech really and the likes of Kindle still a silly price for what it is (you can buy other reader type of objects that will play vidoes and MP3s and do all manner of things for a lot less, in full colour http://www.elonex.com/index.php/products/ebook-rea
Of those people I know who actually even read books, they all buy paper books. One of my sons even lugs 4" thick A5 fiction to work, and he can well afford a Kindle, in fact his cellphone is also an e-book reader.
I cannot actually say I have seen anyone with a Kindle or any other type of dedicated E-reader. I have never even seen anyone looking at the large display of Kindle's in stores and they are right next to the shelves full of 'real' books that are always busy. Call me old fashioned but I prefer the feel of a book in my hand to something that feels like holding a tile! Don't get me wrong about such things, I am a gadget freak who loves the latest tech. If it suits my purposes or is an improvement.
PS: Just in case you missed the other link on the above site >>> http://freebook.elonex.com/ ![]()
08-05-2011 09:38 AM
kevinlomas wrote:
But it's still new tech really and the likes of Kindle still a silly price for what it is (you can buy other reader type of objects that will play vidoes and MP3s and do all manner of things for a lot less, in full colour
-Yes, the Kindle is a book reader and it does that superbly well. The Elonex has a LED screen with back light - the advantage of tke Kindle is that it doesn't. It uuses the eInk technology tht doesn't strain the eyes, looks close to print on paper, can be read in direct sunlight and doesn't use any power.
I was dismissiv eof ebook readers until I had a try of a friends Kindle K2 (the previous version) in the US a couple of years ago. When the Kinlde became available in the UK at the end of last year I asked for one for Christmas. I wondered whether it'd be a electrical gimmick I'd tire of or which didn't live up to its promise, but the opposite. It is brilliant.
Of those people I know who actually even read books, they all buy paper books. One of my sons even lugs 4" thick A5 fiction to work, and he can well afford a Kindle, in fact his cellphone is also an e-book reader.
I haven't bought a DTB (dead tree book) since the Kindle. I just don't want another slab of paper, instead of carrying one book, I can carry all my books.
I Call me old fashioned but I prefer the feel of a book in my hand to something that feels like holding a tile!
I prefer reading and turning the 'page' in one hand, no matter how big the book is. Also, I have shelves and shelves of books here at home, so many that before the Kindle I took read books every week to the Oxfam shop because I had no more storage space. Now I have unlimited.
For researching I can search not only in one book, but across all books on my Kindle, Any word I come across I can instantly get the Oxford dictionary definition just by moving the cursor to the word.want to
It doesn't do eveything well - colour pictures are greyscale on the Kindle itself, and the device and concept are not for everyone but I've not met anyone that has given the Kindle a trial who hasn't been converted.
Several people say they love the physical feel/look of books but when I think about it, what I love is the information and stories inside the book, not the physical paper and cover. And I get that with the Kindle.
Another buzz is reading a book review in the weekend papers and getting it on my Kindle a minute later.
08-05-2011 07:04 PM
But it's still new tech really and the likes of Kindle still a silly price for what it is (you can buy other reader type of objects that will play vidoes and MP3s and do all manner of things for a lot less, in full colour
-Yes, the Kindle is a book reader and it does that superbly well. The Elonex has a LED screen with back light - the advantage of tke Kindle is that it doesn't. It uuses the eInk technology tht doesn't strain the eyes, looks close to print on paper, can be read in direct sunlight and doesn't use any power.
You mean like a book? which uses no power whatsoever.
I was dismissiv eof ebook readers until I had a try of a friends Kindle K2 (the previous version) in the US a couple of years ago. When the Kinlde became available in the UK at the end of last year I asked for one for Christmas. I wondered whether it'd be a electrical gimmick I'd tire of or which didn't live up to its promise, but the opposite. It is brilliant.
I buy most of my books (well, not 'my' books, but you know what I mean) from charity shops. Oddly, many seem to be unread 1st editions even! Most cost £1 for 5 and even add colour to my bookcases
Of those people I know who actually even read books, they all buy paper books. One of my sons even lugs 4" thick A5 fiction to work, and he can well afford a Kindle, in fact his cellphone is also an e-book reader.
I haven't bought a DTB (dead tree book) since the Kindle. I just don't want another slab of paper, instead of carrying one book, I can carry all my books.
But why would you need to carry all of your books around with you? That's a bit like people who are hard-wired in to I-pods that carry 30,000 tunes, enough to listen to on a round the world trip in a balloon. Not only that, would you not have to re-buy all your paper books as e-books also? I cannot really think of an instance when I am not in the house when I have the time or even chance to read, but then again, I am nosy!
I Call me old fashioned but I prefer the feel of a book in my hand to something that feels like holding a tile!
I prefer reading and turning the 'page' in one hand, no matter how big the book is. Also, I have shelves and shelves of books here at home, so many that before the Kindle I took read books every week to the Oxfam shop because I had no more storage space. Now I have unlimited.
Well I hope you had them valued first
For researching I can search not only in one book, but across all books on my Kindle, Any word I come across I can instantly get the Oxford dictionary definition just by moving the cursor to the word.want to
Yes, I can see that can be handy, but then so can a fully-fledged palm-held PC, for example, more so.
It doesn't do eveything well - colour pictures are greyscale on the Kindle itself, and the device and concept are not for everyone but I've not met anyone that has given the Kindle a trial who hasn't been converted.
Perhaps they like to read, but don't like books?
Several people say they love the physical feel/look of books but when I think about it, what I love is the information and stories inside the book, not the physical paper and cover. And I get that with the Kindle.
Ah, there you go then!
Another buzz is reading a book review in the weekend papers and getting it on my Kindle a minute later.
People read newspapers?!!
08-05-2011 08:13 PM
What about children's picture books? I don't think they will be replaced by ebooks anytime soon. What kind of parent will give a $300+ ebook to a five year old?
08-05-2011 08:20 PM
08-05-2011 08:23 PM
^ Oh great....
Can children's book even be read in digital books? Is that even possible yet? I've seen many different children's picture of different sizes and was wondering how they will all "fit" into that tiny screen...
08-06-2011 11:35 AM
Digital technology is The Biggest Thing to ever happen in the human race's occupancy of planet Earth.
Yes, Kindle-esque inventions will supercede print in the mid-to-long term.
But books will be around for many, many years to come, yes, maybe as collector's items: but there IS something about the feel, smell, the weight, the quality of a beautifully-bound volume. And the rustle of the turning of the pages.
I feel that trad. books will become niche products that people will be willing to pay a premium price to own.
Also, when the Apocalypse rolls in, there will be no electrical plug holes for the Kindles.
As it's clearly imminent, I'm stocking up on used Harold Robbins paperbacks. (See you at the car bootie, Kevin.)

