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Barkley
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎07-18-2011

Blank pages at the back of my book???

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Hi everyone,

 

Could anyone please advise me on this rather peculiar issue I'm experiencing?

 

Why are there blank pages at the back of my book???

 

My Book Details:

Pages: 36 (all inclusive, including last page blank, divisible by four)
Binding: Perfect-bound Paperback
Interior Ink: Black & white
Dimensions (cm): 14.8 wide × 21.0 tall



Lulu's response
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Lulu-Basics/Why-are-there-blank-pages-at-the-back-of-my-book/ta-p/33283

"Your book could end up with additional blank pages at the back of your book depending on where the order is fulfilled"

"Minimize the potential for blanks by keeping your page count divisible by 4, and do not add additional blank pages yourself"


Uhm… The mandatory requirements for distribution assert that the final page must be completely blank!!!

Mandatory Requirements for Distribution
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/ISBN-Distribution/Mandatory-Requirements-for-Distribution/ta-p/33632

 

Cheers

Andrew

 

Ode to Life
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Barkley
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Editor
Patti58
Posts: 172
Registered: ‎07-18-2011

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Is it a total of 36 pages ... which would include the Copyright Page, TOC, Dedication, etc.??  Just wonder if that pushed it over, but still don't see why there would be an extra blank page (which does increase, ever so slightly, the price of the book).

Patti

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Ebook @ Barnes & Noble:  http://bit.ly/MissionReport-eBook
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Ken Anderson
Posts: 11,719
Registered: ‎02-11-2010

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

If your book is going to be sold through distribution (amazon et al) then the total number of pages must be divisible by 4 and the last of those pages must be a blank page.
If you supply say 36 pages all with content of one sort or another, just a full stop, the to get the blank last page 4 more pages could be added.
To prevent that add 2 blank at the front and 2 blank at the end yourself.
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Author
Barkley
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎07-18-2011

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Hi Patti,

 

Thank you for your response. Yes, my books is a total of 36 pages (all inclusive) and complies with all the mandatory requirements for distribution. This is the first time I've experienced this.

 

From Lulu's response, it does now seem that their printers are inconsistent. I end up wasting money in the hope that my next order doesn't have unnecessary blank pages appended!

 

Lulu's response
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Lulu-Basics/Why-are-there-blank-pages-at-the-back-of-my-book/ta-p/33283

 

Many thanx

Andrew

Ode to Life
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Barkley
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Barkley
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎07-18-2011

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Hi Ken,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

My book (interior) is a total of 36 pages (all inclusive, including last blank page) and complies with all the mandatory requirements for distribution. This is the first time I've experienced this.

From Lulu's response, it does now seem that their printers are inconsistent. I end up wasting money in the hope that my next order doesn't have unnecessary blank pages appended!

 

Lulu's response
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Lulu-Basics/Why-are-there-blank-pages-at-the-back-of-my-book/ta-p/33283

 

Many thanx

Andrew

Ode to Life
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Barkley
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Ken Anderson
Posts: 11,719
Registered: ‎02-11-2010

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Not having seen the book or all the mail from Lulu I guessing here.

You haven't slipped a page number in on that blank page have you? 

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Author
Barkley
Posts: 12
Registered: ‎07-18-2011

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Hi Ken,

 

I've now had an online live-chat with Lulu support. At least now I know Lulu's printers/distributors are not consistent, and is very dependent on my location and the local printer distributor. However, I can't keep adding four pages in the hope that my local printer distributor gets it right, so I guess I'm gonna have to go figure...

 

Total of 36 pages - all inclusive, including last blank page

No headers, footers, or page numbers on blank pages

Total number of blank pages is two, including the last page

 

Many thanx

Andrew

Ode to Life
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Barkley
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kevinlomas
Posts: 17,038
Registered: ‎02-11-2010

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

For no apparent reason the changes Lulu have made to the convertors can cause it to resize pages even if you pages are the right size, and therefore shunt the text back and forth, causing the page count to be wrong, so then it adds some blank ones!
I cannot see how inconsistancy of printing companies can be at fault because they all use the same PDF files. However, I once had a proof with 4 blanks added at each end that were not in the PRF PDF!

PS: Check your file for things you cannot see ...
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Hoagy
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎11-21-2011

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Hello,

 

I have this similar problem of blank pages being inserted at the back of my book. My page count is 58 and i did not include any blank pages myself in my PDF. My understanding is that balnk pages are inserted to make the page count divisable by four. My problem is that I recieved a copy of my book back with 3 blank pages (6 sides) inserted at the back of my book which seems a bit excesive and unnecesary. 

 

Does anyone know how many pages my book should be to avoid these blank pages being added alltogether? Or avoid as few as possible being added.

 

Would really appreciate peoples responces. Perhaps I am not fully understanding how the process works?

 

Thanks!

 

Hoagy

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Editor
Peter May
Posts: 2,766
Registered: ‎02-11-2010

Re: Blank pages at the back of my book???

Your book should have a total number of pages that is divisible by 4. That is all pages in your document, included unnumbered and blank pages. The last page should be totally blank.

You have 58 pages, which when divided by 4 = 14.5, you should have 60 pages ( 60/4=15)

HOWEVER - even so the printer may add additional pages at the back. It really doesn't matter, and you're not charged for them

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