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"All the above can make a difference on how an editor works over your manuscript also. Often it can be a simple matter of how pedantic some are, not to mention just what level of English they are trained to. Never assume that anyone who sets themselves up as something and charges for it, are actually qualified at the level they need to be, or at all (nowadays they may just be running it through Word or something)."
The above simply echoes what I said in my previous large-winded post.
As in, they have qualifications in order to charge for making such proofs/edits.
I think it is also fair to asume then, that those who set themselves up with a company to proof authors manuscripts, are in fact highly trained professionals who have worked in the education sector for more than two decades, with a prooven track record.
Because, from where I'm standing, that's more than what you have brought to the discussion of this post.
"Those who let fate lead them roll the dice. Those who lead themselves never roll them at all." - Orchestra, Vol. II.
Yup, grammar and punctuation will never please all the readers.
Just as easily as how some Lulu members admit that they will scan read a book without properly reading it, when it pops up on Authors Spotlight just to highlight any errors - whilst ultimately blaming us for being gullable idiots for believing decades of English experiance and qualifications and paying for such services - what a star...
Check out the wikipedia page for The Hunger Games - in the criticism section you can get an easy grasp of how some authors, who give reviews, percieve how a book is written - Stephen King thought it was a brilliant addictive book, however he did have reservations about "author laziness" in places.
If you can, send me the open office doc
it would be very difficult to add in brackets within the lines to highlight any changes, if any, on a PDF that I can't edit lol 
"Those who let fate lead them roll the dice. Those who lead themselves never roll them at all." - Orchestra, Vol. II.
As in, they have qualifications in order to charge for making such proofs/edits.
No I did not say that.
I think it is also fair to asume then, that those who set themselves up with a company to proof authors manuscripts, are in fact highly trained professionals who have worked in the education sector for more than two decades, with a prooven track record.
I did not say that either.
Because, from where I'm standing, that's more than what you have brought to the discussion of this post.
Sorry, what do you mean by that?
All this long thread really goes to prove it that no matter how plain the English is, some people still have no idea what is meant.
Yup, grammar and punctuation will never please all the readers.
Poor grammar is exactly that, and some people do not notice it because they do not know how it should be. Grammar is not the same as spelling.
Just as easily as how some Lulu members admit that they will scan read a book without properly reading it, when it pops up on Authors Spotlight just to highlight any errors - whilst ultimately blaming us for being gullable idiots for believing decades of English experiance and qualifications and paying for such services - what a star...
Do I detect some form of animosity towards myself? If so then I am called Kevin. I do not charge for or even offer services, I have not even pointed out the spelling mistakes in all these postings. I have not even mentioned anything about the contents of the English contents of book this thread is all about, I am just joining in what is said in here about English in general.
Check out the wikipedia page for The Hunger Games - in the criticism section you can get an easy grasp of how some authors, who give reviews, percieve how a book is written - Stephen King thought it was a brilliant addictive book, however he did have reservations about "author laziness" in places.
No idea, I have not read it, or any book by King himself, so I cannot comment on them. Perhaps King found no English faults in that book? BTW. Some publishers will pay a well-known name to write a review, they are therefore not going to write a bad one are they?
Right OK...
Matthew I sent you an email with a PDF file in, I tried to send as an openoffic doc, but the file was too big Sorry. Reply however you like, in an email or on here
Somewhere I feel we have got off the topic of my book and this topic has just turned into a big argument about grammar etc...
All I wanted was a bit of feedback. 
Thank you very much Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
There are a couple of parts, where I had to take the lyrics out, You'll know probably where you see them. One of them is when their on stage and Sarah mentions Madonna. I just think it doesn't flow right now with the 'singing' taken out, so I know it needs more work on that part.
Sorry for the wait, I had sent some pages back to you - I have only done a couple of pages for you, to give you an idea of what needs to be done
Unfortunatley, I'm pressed for time with my own objectives (proofing my 3rd book) so this was all the time I could spare for the minute
However, I have added some pointers into it in brackets - and have highlighted bits with red, crossed out un-needed words, etc - you should be able to see it on an open-office program, it is word 1997 - 2003 compliant
"Those who let fate lead them roll the dice. Those who lead themselves never roll them at all." - Orchestra, Vol. II.
