I will most likely never again publish another book with Lulu
It's not Lulu's fault that you clicked that option any more than it was their fault when I clicked it. But perhaps a greater description should be given on Lulu before people click it. In fact even the name Google Book Search does not realy give a clue to what it is. I thought it just listed books with Google's searchengine in the same way I can register my own site with searchengines. I only know Google as a searchengine, and don't even use it!
Ron Miller said:
Well, I am done with this discussion, which has become pretty ridiculously off-point. I can only hope that Skoob sees the good sense in my original suggestion and acts on it.Over and out.
One more thing. Kevin said:You more or less said you started a trend.I finished kvs in 1996 but couldn't find an agent or publisher for it and in 1998 decided to self-publish it through another POD company. I remember your recounting of these efforts and, to be honest, I think you may not have gone about it all in the best way.It sold well until around 2001 and by then lots of viking tales began appearing until there was a veritable deluge of them (as that link you posted above demonstrates).You should reissue the book with a better cover. It might have a whole new life.
Just Kevin said:
I don't see it as altruistic but mutually beneficial in a general way. If we can develop a credible vetting process it will help improve many POD offerings and thus raise the standard which is good for all POD authors. And it can help in the promotion and sales departments.A lot of people used to ask for advice in the forums about their works. Some only really wanted praise and became somewhat annoyed when honesty was shown. It was also possible to leave comments in the Promotions section. That was stopped because even one or two regulars to the forums said it's none of our business how people write, and put their books together.Kevin has raised an excellent point, which is probably why the plan to offer editing services would be an uphill battle...even if, as Kevin and I have pointed out, authors would be willing to take weeks off their own writing and promotion to work on someone else's book.The book club idea is a little more practical, since it would depend largely on already-published books read and recommended by contributors to the club.You're right that attaining credibility is a hurdle that needs to be overcome. But that's how it is with any effort. It's like a race across a field with obstacles. We can run the race or walk away. But getting in a race gives you a chance to finish among the winners. If there are hurdles you jump them.That makes no sense.Anyway I would be willing to collaborate with others here to put something together and see if we can get it across the finish line.* You have said that many times, and what have the replies been? The first thing to do is to see if any of our colleagues are interested enough to run with us. If a few are, then we can talk process and take the first steps out of the gate.See the above *I am afraid that I would probably be out of the loop since I don't think I have read more than one self-published book in the past half dozen years.