(and one has to ask if any of the females in your group would have made the same comment if the subject had been about writing from a male character's point of view? You might want to ask them!).That was part of the discussion. One women said she could do it easily because she knew men inside out. They don't listen, can't cook, have no patience, won't ask for directions, have sex on their mind all the time, hate emotional conversations and wear any old thing. We all laughed and that was that!
What's the cliche --not a hope in hell.
Just Kevin said:
What's the cliche --not a hope in hell.That's depressing.
What an incredible way to work. To put down the biography of the girl the way you have done is quite a feat. Remarkable! Do many writers do that? Thank you for sharing. I will start your book after I finish the first of the Lillum books by Kevin. He is extremely imaginative. PS I saw 2 black and white pages of the comic book Velma. They were so well drawn, very professional.
I've read two of the Velda paperbacks, and I enjoyed both. It really has the feel of forties/fifties "pulp fiction." Of course, most pulp fiction was pumped out for a quick profit and the writing was secondary to sensationalism, but Ron's is well written while still maintaining the feel of the original style.The "Superior Never-Chafe Discreet Ladies' Undergament factory" line made me read it twice for hidden acronyms, btw... There were other well-written pulp fiction stories of that era... I recall one called "The So-Blue Marble" or something like that, and another that hinged on the idea that a man could have anything he wanted if he was willing to work hard enough for it -- And quite the "Monkey's Paw" that idea turned out to be -- "The Screaming Mimis," that was it.
Just to throw some fuel on the fire of men not understanding women and vice versa, here's a passage from something I'm working on now:So you’re wondering, no doubt, what the deal is with me and her. Fact is, I have no idea. Once when we were both in the fourth grade, I tried to hold her hand on the bus and she nearly broke two of my fingers. Told me it was kungfu.The next day she brought a peanut butter cookie to school for me. Baked it herself from a secret Ming dynasty recipe – that was before her mom told her that they weren’t really Chinese. Best cookie I have ever eaten. To this day, mind you.
What a talented man you are Ron. I visited Velma's website and watched one of her films. I will bookmark the page. You have created a character that people will really believe exists. I look forward to reading your book. I don't normally read detective fiction; I read true crime stories, which we were obliged to study, for our course on the psychology of crime. (I took the course after I retired) Thank you for your posting.Did you say your daughter was the model for Velma? Was the voice in the movie that of your wife? Velma is very beautiful.
Sorry for the misspelling of the interesting Velda.
I think that sort of thing---especially when you are dealing with a book rife with characters and incidents---can be pretty important. It helps you keep things consistent, for one thing, and, for another, the more real it all seems to you the more real you will be able to make it seem to your readers.
I write 'organically,' I do know what comes next, but I still make it up as I go along (and go over and over it!) but as I get older I find I have to make more and more reminder notes.(By the way, I love finding maps in novels. Does anyone else share that? Has anyone included a map in their book(s)?)
They are very common in Fantasy, but I often just mostly ignore them, but in one story I have in mind I will have to create a map of a fictional city. Just another type of 'note' to help me write the story, I suppose, but it will possibly appear in the book.
Some writers (or their publishers, or often well-known fans of them) often take it usually interesting extremes. >>
That's a nice map, Ron.
My long running series of SF books following the same person/people around will soon have a Part Six and hopefully not much later, a Part Seven. There was a substantial gap between Part Five and getting back to Part Six (and Seven!) So one problem I have found is I had to read the entire series again, taking lots of notes, so I could recall any previous details I needed to carry on writing.
Far less 'for chidren' and 'girly,' I hope you agree?