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I'm working on a book I plan on printing using Lulu xPress, in the Executive size (7" x 10"). I'm using Word 2007, and it refuses to set the paper size required (7.25 x 10.25, including bleed area). To clarify, I can set a Custom paper size of 7.25 x 10.25, but Word automatically changes that to B5(JIS), which is 7.17 x 10.12. And when CutePDF is used to create a PDF file, checking the PDF file properties shows a 7.17 x 10.13 page size. I should note that the same thing happens with the Lulu-supplied Word template for Executive-sized documents, not just with my Word file.
Any suggestions? Does the difference between 7.25 x 10.25 and 7.17 x 10.12 matter enough to worry about? I suspect that in the printing process Lulu would scale the 7.17 x 10.12 page size up to 7.25 x 10.25, then trim off a 0.125" bleed area all around. If so, should I change the margins slightly, and the header/footer heights?
Any suggestions? Does the difference between 7.25 x 10.25 and 7.17 x 10.12 matter enough to worry about? I suspect that in the printing process Lulu would scale the 7.17 x 10.12 page size up to 7.25 x 10.25, then trim off a 0.125" bleed area all around. If so, should I change the margins slightly, and the header/footer heights?
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I'm working on a book I plan on printing using Lulu xPress, in the Executive size (7" x 10"). I'm using Word 2007, and it refuses to set the paper size required (7.25 x 10.25, including bleed area).
Why do you need Bleed for the top and bottom also?
To clarify, I can set a Custom paper size of 7.25 x 10.25, but Word automatically changes that to B5(JIS), which is 7.17 x 10.12.
I have just tried in Word, physically setting Custom Page Size to 7.25 x 10.25, allowed it to change the paper size, then rechecked the setting, and it is still set at 7.25 x 10.25, which it says is B5(JIS.)
And when CutePDF is used to create a PDF file,
But Word will Save As a PDF. That's often what I upload to Lulu. There's no need to use some other tool.
checking the PDF file properties shows a 7.17 x 10.13 page size.
And it always keeps the original page size.
I should note that the same thing happens with the Lulu-supplied Word template for Executive-sized documents, not just with my Word file.
Any suggestions?
I don't know what to suggest. I am using Word 2010, which came as part of Office 2010. And have no such problems with it.
Does the difference between 7.25 x 10.25 and 7.17 x 10.12 matter enough to worry about?
It is quite a large difference, especially if you wish to use Bleed.
I suspect that in the printing process Lulu would scale the 7.17 x 10.12 page size up to 7.25 x 10.25, then trim off a 0.125" bleed area all around.
I doubt it, or there would be no point in using Bleed. (Which I assume you are using to do double page spreads?)
If so, should I change the margins slightly, and the header/footer heights?
No, they are on the page, and any trimming done has no idea where the margins etc., are.
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/kevinlomas
Just trying to follow instructions.
The FAQs say "Ensure the document includes bleed, 0.125”, in its setup dimensions for correct trimming," and they recommend using their prepared templates, and all have a 0.125" bleed region all around. For Executive size (which I plan to print), the templates have the paper size as 7.25" x 10.25" (although as noted in my original post, that wasn't "sticking" for me in Word 2007) , and margins all around of 0.63" (0.5" plus 0.125" the bleed area).
You only need Bleed if text or image goes across two facing pages. Is that what you want? It's to allow for what is bound, without 'stealing' any of the image or text. In theory that extra 0.125" should be an overlap area.
I have just tried in Word, physically setting Custom Page Size to 7.25 x 10.25, allowed it to change the paper size, then rechecked the setting, and it is still set at 7.25 x 10.25, which it says is B5(JIS.)
Yes, that's the problem. It says it's B5(JIS), which by definition is 182mm x 257mm (7.17" x 10.12"). In Word 2007, I also could manually set the dimensions to 7.25 x 10.25, but when saved as a PDF using CutePDF, the page size was 7.17 x 10.12.
But Word will Save As a PDF. That's often what I upload to Lulu. There's no need to use some other tool.
Word 2007 doesn't have that option. There is an add-in from Microsoft that enables saving as PDF, but I never installed it because CutePDF has always worked for me, and it works with multiple applications, not just Word. And an FAQ at Lulu mentions it as a way to create the PDF file to be uploaded.
True, Lulu does recommend it, to use with anything that will not Save As a PDF. It could still be worth installing this though >> https://www.lifewire.com/microsofts-free-save-pdf-add-in-3540128
I don't know what to suggest. I am using Word 2010, which came as part of Office 2010. And have no such problems with it.http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/kevinlomas
In Word 2010, you just select A5 (and it tells me the size in inches.) Does it not have that option in Word 2007? It is an ancient paper size after all.
BTW. Did you mean margin settings? I assume they are MMs?!
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That's not precisely accurate. Bleed is always applied to all four sides of all pages. If you provide a file at size (6 x 9 for example) we have to add the bleed margin to the print file (6.25 x 9.25 is the final size). The bleed allows for trimming on all sides.
Why not just ask for those sizes then? I mostly use A5, and that's what size it is called in Create, it does not say + 1/4" all round. And I am sure that modern machines no longer cut 1/4" off all round! A total of 1/2" from side to side and top to bottom?
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/kevinlomas
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But if people do add Bleed to allow for trimming, then the printers would add even more, would they not?
As far as I recall from Lulu's Knowledge Base Bleed does not seem to be mentioned as such unless one wants page contents right to the edges.
It gives advice to do with Full Bleed on how to prepare for double page spreads (add such and such to the bound edge and allow an overlap to each half of the image for those pages.)
If people do not want any of those options, then they don't need to allow anything for any type of Bleed. It's why I asked the OP if that's what was required.
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/kevinlomas