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I have written several books not yet published

I have started and somewhat finished several books each well over 100,000 words.
 However I have not published any of them should I publish them here or look elsewhere
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  • "Should" you? Well, only you can judge that. 100,000 words is a good length for a novel, so they would be within the parameters for what this method will accept.

    I can tell you that in my experience, Lulu has been a very good place to publish my writings. But I cannot make that decision for you.
  • It would depend a lot on the nature of your books and what your intended goal for them is. Are they fiction or non-fiction? If fiction, what genre might they fall in? Are each of these stand-alone books or are they a series? What is your intended audience? What do you mean by "somewhat finished"? Have you considered trying traditional publishing before looking at self-publishing? (There is absolutely nothing wrong with the latter at all, but it might be worth the small investment in time to pursue the former before launching into doing it all yourself.)


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  • 100,000 words on average is quite low for a novel in general, but great for POD due to its cost.

    This may help you make up your mind >>

       http://connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/332868/why-should-i-publish-with-lulu#latest

    http://connect.lulu.com/en/discussion/33495/lulu-faq#latest

  • I don’t know if 100K is “quite low” for a novel. I would think it’s toward the higher end. “War and Peace” is just shy of that number. But average word count does vary by genre. For instance, 60 to 80K are about the general range for mysteries.
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  • I don’t know if 100K is “quite low” for a novel. I would think it’s toward the higher end.

    The 100s of novels I own would disagree with you on that. I am not going to count the words in them all! but one I am currently reading has 661 - 6" x 9" pages with a size 11 font. It's one of trilogy, all of the same page count and font size. As other examples, the Harry Potter books have a similar page number and font size. Don't say I am just Cherry Picking, I am not, I have many books of a similar page count and font size.

     “War and Peace” is just shy of that number.

    It has 587,287 words.

    Here are other examples >>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_novels#List

    It is said that a book can be called a novel if it has over 40,000 words, though. Which would be very thin books!

     But average word count does vary by genre.

    By story too no doubt. This is interesting >>   https://thewritepractice.com/word-count/

     For instance, 60 to 80K are about the general range for mysteries.

    I have no idea, I never read them! But publishers often specialise, and the above link says they often insist on a max word number, and it's often right.

    But my main point is that page count using POD has to be taken in to account, because POD is expensive. One of my series of books is split in to around 80,000 words each (A5 at 12pnt Garamond) due simply to the high cost. Mass-printing does not have the same costs and restrictions. Possibly the only restriction to word count in trad publishing is having to stick to a deadline!

     

  • Yes, Kevin, but have you read War and Peace in the Original Klingon?
  • Would it be even more boring?

    toH, joH, genoa 'ej lucca DaH private estates bonaparte qorDu' puS neH. ghobe' ghuHmoH jIH chugh maH DeSDu' veS, vaj je Hoch infamies je atrocities Antichrist palliate jatlhqa' chaw' SoH 'e' cho'angqangbe''a' (ghaH mu'mey, ghaH 'e' luHar jIH), SoH vISovbe' je pIq, qawlu' jupwI' , qawlu' toy'wI''a' matlh, Daja'bogh. SuH, bIpIv'a'?, bIpIv'a' yIHegh? ghIj ba' 'ej HIjatlh, vIlegh. "

  • See, in Klingon, Prince Vasily's remark there is pure poetry.
  • 100 000 words is not low for a novel. 80 thousand is about average.
    What planet are you on?
  • Ron MillerRon Miller Professor
    edited November 2018

    I don’t know if 100K is “quite low” for a novel. I would think it’s toward the higher end.

    The 100s of novels I own would disagree with you on that. I am not going to count the words in them all! but one I am currently reading has 661 - 6" x 9" pages with a size 11 font. It's one of trilogy, all of the same page count and font size. As other examples, the Harry Potter books have a similar page number and font size. Don't say I am just Cherry Picking, I am not, I have many books of a similar page count and font size.

    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone : 76,944 words. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets : 85,141 words. 

    But, admittedly, the books got longer as the series progressed.

    In any case, you can get a much better estimate of the wordage in a book by counting the words on one page and multiplying rather than basing the calculation on point size and number of pages.

    But my main point is that page count using POD has to be taken in to account, because POD is expensive. One of my series of books is split in to around 80,000 words each (A5 at 12pnt Garamond) due simply to the high cost. Mass-printing does not have the same costs and restrictions. Possibly the only restriction to word count in trad publishing is having to stick to a deadline!

    You are absolutely right on this! POD can be, in fact, a very expensive way to produce books and keeping a page count reasonable is something to keep in mind.

     


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  •  “War and Peace” is just shy of that number.

    It has 587,287 words.

    Yeah, I really goofed on that! I can't imagine what I was thinking! :blush:  

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  • 100 000 words is not low for a novel. 80 thousand is about average.
    What planet are you on?

    If that was addressed to me, try clicking that link to the web address on Earth.
  • But, admittedly, the books got longer as the series progressed.

    Indeed they do. Two are below 100,000. The others are higher.

    In any case, you can get a much better estimate of the wordage in a book by counting the words on one page and multiplying rather than basing the calculation on point size and number of pages.

    Both methods are valid by finding an average.

    Or just look them up? Or even paste them in to the tool they have here >>

    https://wordcounter.net/blog/2015/11/23/10922_how-many-words-harry-potter.html


  •  “War and Peace” is just shy of that number.

    It has 587,287 words.

    Yeah, I really goofed on that! I can't imagine what I was thinking! :blush:  


    Blame it on age :)
  • RobertRobert hangkong Reader

    If it is a novel, it is recommended to write and publish it. If it is a subject, it must be published, there is no need to wait.
  • Robert said:

    If it is a novel, it is recommended to write and publish it. If it is a subject, it must be published, there is no need to wait.
    What?
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  • Robert said:

    If it is a novel, it is recommended to write and publish it. If it is a subject, it must be published, there is no need to wait.
    What?

    It is a koan. Like the infamous software message, "It could be connected, the modem," in contemplating it, we find a truth that could not be directly expressed to us.

    I am reminded of a gift I was once given: It was a bar of soap with a Denver Broncos logo. The package was marked, "Pattern remains through life of soap." At first, I thought that this was an instruction to the user, to keep reshaping the bar of soap as usage caused it to soften and to wear away, such that it remained in the original pattern.

    Only later did I realize the deep philosophical truth beneath it all: that if we live a life of soap -- a life in which we act as a surfactant and a suspension agent -- then that pattern will remain with us for life.

  • Also, "All your base are belong to us."
  • Or it could be Yoda, but the simple explanation is, it's a link to a site that sells liquids for E-cigarettes. Have you noticed that spam is always posted on Friday here because they know it will be two days before it's removed?
  • Skoob_ym said:
    Also, "All your base are belong to us."
    Oh boy, haven't watched that one in a while. Down the YouTube rabbit hole I go...
  • Is that not from some old Japanese console game? When you have been defeated?


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